Sumo deadlift vs. deadlift
Posted: 09 April 2010 05:15 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I did a search and came up epmtyhanded.  I know a SDHP tends to be done with a kettlebell, but I see people posting sumo deadlifts…which isn’t hard to understand until I see 300 lb sumo deadlifts and I highly doubt there are KB’s that big.  So that leads me to believe they used a barbell, but in what way can you vary a barbell deadlift and call it a sumo deadlift?  Isn’t it just a deadlift?
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Posted: 09 April 2010 06:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Couple things:

Sumo deadlifts:  Wide legged stance favored by power lifters.  Torso is more upright and the bar travels a shorter overall distance, so that helps your back and helps from having to lift something heavy extra high.  Those are the 300lb ones.

Deadlifts: generally feet under shoulders.  Those are the 300lb ones.

Sumo deadlift high pulls: Sumo deadlift stance (wide leg, upright torso), and using the hips to lift the weight you also propel it high enough to go from shin to chin.

Whether you do that with a kb or a barbell is immaterial.  But if you can do that with 300lbs . . . your regular sumo deadlift must be in the stratosphere . .
I, however, loathe doing them with a barbell, but only think they suck like everything else with a kb, since I like the fact the kb is between my feet: feels much more comfortable. (I probably do the sdhps with a barbell wrong, and probably try and stand up to fast cranking my back, which is part of the reason I’d wager). 

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Posted: 09 April 2010 11:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Barbell deadlifts can be done with your hands gripping the bar outside the width of your feet, known as “conventional style” and hands gripping the bar inside the width of your feet, “sumo style”.
In sumo style the feet also tend to be much wider, how wide depending on the lifter, but just inside the plates for taller lifters is very common.
In powerlifting, which is where you’ll see most sumo deadlifters, it’s about the proportions and strengths of the lifter as to which style they use. Sumo is more about quads and hips, conventional brings in more hamstrings, less quads and more lower back. Sumo deadlifters tend to need more upper back strength to finish the lift as the closer hand spacing in a max. lift pulls the shoulders forward more.

Conventional deadlifts transfer skill much better to the Olympic lifts. Sumo emulates real world lifting more where you tend to straddle a heavy object when you lift it.

Different people suit different styles and really serious lifters will switch back and forth depending on what they’re trying to achieve with their deadlift training.

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Posted: 30 August 2010 03:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Does anyone have a video of how to do the Sumo Deadlift correctly? Your descriptions give a pretty good picture in my head on how to do it. But since I have hurt my back in the past I really would like to see this done prior to going out and doing it. Really don’t want to go through that pain again. As I say, seeing is believing. Thanks for your help

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Posted: 30 August 2010 03:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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redwhtblu3 - 30 August 2010 03:13 AM

Does anyone have a video of how to do the Sumo Deadlift correctly? Your descriptions give a pretty good picture in my head on how to do it. But since I have hurt my back in the past I really would like to see this done prior to going out and doing it. Really don’t want to go through that pain again. As I say, seeing is believing. Thanks for your help

I’d try youtube.  I’ve seen some there.

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Posted: 30 August 2010 05:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Cole leads with his hips a little here but back position stays fairly good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cA_ZqknS5U

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Posted: 30 August 2010 05:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Garddawg - 30 August 2010 05:15 AM

Cole leads with his hips a little here but back position stays fairly good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cA_ZqknS5U

That is crazy! smile Me and my girlfriend were actually talking about this yesterday! We were trying to guess his max. Do you know about what it is by chance?

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Posted: 30 August 2010 06:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Posted: 30 August 2010 06:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Posted: 30 August 2010 07:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Garddawg - 30 August 2010 05:15 AM

Cole leads with his hips a little here but back position stays fairly good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cA_ZqknS5U

Dang, I didn’t know we had one of ours doing sumo.  Shoulda known. 

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Posted: 06 April 2011 04:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Cole and some of the other teens 6 months later….

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1919054137639&oid=303227087844&comments;

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