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Posted: 13 July 2011 06:39 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I have been on a vegan diet for a couple of months now and was wondering how that would mesh with crossfit?

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Posted: 13 July 2011 07:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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You’ll never be able to do a pull up.

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Posted: 13 July 2011 09:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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We promote a diet that incorporates whole protein from sources that are close to those that were around and being eaten by our ancestors 50,000 years ago.  In short, meat will best facilitate adaptation to the CrossFit stimulus (and any of the other of life’s stimuli for that matter).

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Posted: 13 July 2011 01:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I was being humorous while BathMatt actually was helpful.  Are you a vegan because of moral issues?  If so the best we can say is it is very difficult to get the amount of protein necessary to support CrossFit on a vegan diet.  It can be done, its just harder and generally more tiresome. 
If on the other hand you are a vegan because you think it is more healthy or better for the planet we have several books for you to read.

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Posted: 14 July 2011 04:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Garddawg - 13 July 2011 01:39 PM

I was being humorous while BathMatt actually was helpful.  Are you a vegan because of moral issues?  If so the best we can say is it is very difficult to get the amount of protein necessary to support CrossFit on a vegan diet.  It can be done, its just harder and generally more tiresome. 
If on the other hand you are a vegan because you think it is more healthy or better for the planet we have several books for you to read.

Haha ! I laughed really hard when I read your comment . No not out of moral reason. I just like the way my body work ( ton of energy all day) with the vegan diet. I am noticing the week that my recovery is super slow ! what kind of diets do you recommend with crossfit ?

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Posted: 14 July 2011 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Marla Singer was a ten year Vegan who started at our gym about 8 years ago.  She was overweight and I made her first give up eating anything white.  I had her run around our building yelling “Bread is Bad!”. She wanted to do pull ups.  I told her that there was only one thing everyone that could do pull ups had in common in our gym.  Tall people, short people, skinny people, muscular people…..they all ate meat.
We argued for several months.  Finally I told her she should eat a piece of chicken. I mean anything that you can cut a head off and it stll lives really can’t be an animal.
Long story short she came in gagging down a piece of chicken and got her first pull up that day.  The next day she came in smashing a hamburger and got five in a row. 

We generally endorse a primal diet revolving around Zone quantities.

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Posted: 14 July 2011 07:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Is that like the caveman and paleo diet ? Is there a website, you trust, with information about the zone diet ?

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Posted: 14 July 2011 07:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Club Gleason - 14 July 2011 07:29 AM

Is that like the caveman and paleo diet ? Is there a website, you trust, with information about the zone diet ?

Yes, this one seems pretty good.  wink

http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewforum/14/

Lots of discussion about both types of diets, etc. 

There are other resources (crossfit journal 21 is a free download, so you can search on google for that). 

You may look at Robb Wolf’s book too:

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Solution-Original-Human-Diet/dp/0982565844

There will be a lot of experimentation on yourself though.  Most folks have to tweak a bit here and there.

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Posted: 14 July 2011 07:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Club Gleason - 14 July 2011 07:29 AM

Is that like the caveman and paleo diet ? Is there a website, you trust, with information about the zone diet ?

Yeah, this one.

I’ve been lurking for quite a while and haven’t really started WODing yet, but I have made major changes to my diet based on the information I’ve gleaned from this very forum. But if you want it straight from the horse’s mouth, then check out Dr. Barry Sears’ books on the Zone. And yes, Paleo, Caveman, Primal… pretty much the same, just different names.

I’m almost down to 300 (started at 380) after a year+ of diet changes. Will be incorporating more exercise very soon.

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Posted: 26 November 2011 02:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Garddawg, sorry, with all due respect (and I really mean that, you and this site really helped me get started with Crossfit), you appear to not understand veganism at all.  It is perfectly possible to eat vegan, and still make steady, constant gains in Crossfit.  I’ve been vegan and crossfitting regularly for over 2 years. 
example.  Today I did G.I. Jane (100 Burpee Pullups for time).  Last time was Feb of this year, I did half (50 reps), and did it at 7:45.  I did 100 today in 16:11…I would consider that a steady improvement. Over the past 2 years, I started doing Puppies/Pack, and have recently been doing Porch and Rx for almost all workouts (most Hero workouts Rx are still a bit out of my range, but I’m getting there).  I think it’s going to take a vegan to make it to the Crossfit Games podium for people to finally start realizing it is a perfectly acceptable diet even for Crossfitting. 

Gleason, I would say educate yourself first…read books, and find blogs out there of other people doing it, and I’m sure you will realize that it will work for you.  It is possible to be vegan, and not eat healthy.  As with anything, make sure you know what food you need to get the job done. 
I agree with you, I have way more energy, and think more clearly than I ever did before becoming vegan.  With that said, each person’s body reacts differently, be it vegan, vegetarian, paleo, pizza & beer, whatever…so go with what works best for you and don’t let anyone push their diet on you.  Go with what you feel is right.  The main rule that I try to follow is to stick to WHOLE FOODS as much as possible.

Here are some good resources/blogs to get you started:

http://crossfitbriga.blogspot.com/2010/02/getting-big-and-strong-on-vegan-diet.html

http://oliviadesantis.com/vegans-unite.html

http://www.amazon.com/Thrive-Nutrition-Optimal-Performance-Sports/dp/0738212547/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322341776&sr=1-3  **(highly recommend this book!)**

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=125672264120355&ref=ts

http://eatlivebewell.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/vegan-crossfit-adventures/

http://owenp.tumblr.com/tagged/vegan/chrono

Hope this helps smile

I am a male, 43 yrs old, 5’ 8”, 153lbs

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Posted: 26 November 2011 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Sasquatch - 26 November 2011 02:17 PM

Garddawg, sorry, with all due respect (and I really mean that, you and this site really helped me get started with Crossfit), you appear to not understand veganism at all.  It is perfectly possible to eat vegan, and still make steady, constant gains in Crossfit.  I’ve been vegan and crossfitting regularly for over 2 years. 
example.  Today I did G.I. Jane (100 Burpee Pullups for time).  Last time was Feb of this year, I did half (50 reps), and did it at 7:45.  I did 100 today in 16:11…I would consider that a steady improvement. Over the past 2 years, I started doing Puppies/Pack, and have recently been doing Porch and Rx for almost all workouts (most Hero workouts Rx are still a bit out of my range, but I’m getting there).  I think it’s going to take a vegan to make it to the Crossfit Games podium for people to finally start realizing it is a perfectly acceptable diet even for Crossfitting. 

Gleason, I would say educate yourself first…read books, and find blogs out there of other people doing it, and I’m sure you will realize that it will work for you.  It is possible to be vegan, and not eat healthy.  As with anything, make sure you know what food you need to get the job done. 
I agree with you, I have way more energy, and think more clearly than I ever did before becoming vegan.  With that said, each person’s body reacts differently, be it vegan, vegetarian, paleo, pizza & beer, whatever…so go with what works best for you and don’t let anyone push their diet on you.  Go with what you feel is right.  The main rule that I try to follow is to stick to WHOLE FOODS as much as possible.

Here are some good resources/blogs to get you started:

http://crossfitbriga.blogspot.com/2010/02/getting-big-and-strong-on-vegan-diet.html

http://oliviadesantis.com/vegans-unite.html

http://www.amazon.com/Thrive-Nutrition-Optimal-Performance-Sports/dp/0738212547/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322341776&sr=1-3  **(highly recommend this book!)**

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=125672264120355&ref=ts

http://eatlivebewell.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/vegan-crossfit-adventures/

http://owenp.tumblr.com/tagged/vegan/chrono

Hope this helps smile

I am a male, 43 yrs old, 5’ 8”, 153lbs

I think the point is that you improve faster if you’re not a vegetarian, which in GD’s case is based on more experience than the anecdote he related about Marla Singer. That’s one example of many.
For example, for all you know you would achieved much more if you hadn’t been a vegetarian. You’re a sample of one.
Yes you can make gains as a vegetarian, but that doesn’t mean it’s the best way to achieve them.
It doesn’t mean it’s the worst either.

I am however willing to set a side a small amount of money in my will to bet that we won’t see a year where the majority of top 10 finishers in the CF Games are vegetarians in my lifetime. I very much doubt that we’ll see vegetarians win the games twice consecutively. And I don’t mean the same person twice, I mean any two vegetarians.

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Posted: 26 November 2011 08:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Fair enough… There are so few v*ns in the world, and even fewer that are Crossfitting that I would be happy to see just one win one year smile 
I did Crossfit, run distance, and strength train (usual bodybuilding routine mumbo jumbo) a couple years before going Veg and devoting all of my workouts to CF, and I don’t think there was any difference, so hard to tell really, we’ll never know.  But you’re absolutely right, and as I said, everyone reacts differently to different diets/routines, so what works for me may not work for you.  Experiment and have fun!

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Posted: 01 February 2012 09:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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CleanCarter - 01 February 2012 08:50 AM

Being a vegan will not affect strength positively or negatively.  Most strenght gains are made via neuromuscular improvements rather than hyperplasia.  However, eating a vegan diet will greatly decrease your risks for disease and cancer.  Don’t listen to cavemen, they lived when food was tough to get.  If you live according to evolutionary standards then give up your car, your home, your t.v, and the computer you are typing on.  We have some new stuff since 5,000 yaers ago called science and technology.  So don’t listen to paleo diet info unless they are not living in modern society and in fact living in a cave.

Wow, are you in for some flak!

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Garddawg - 22 March 2009

“CrossFit is not dangerous.
Bad coaching is dangerous, poor movement is dangerous. Ego is dangerous.
CrossFit, properly scaled to the individual is the safest and most efficient program available for strength, conditioning and movement.”
BlueBugofJustice - 18 August 2009

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Posted: 01 February 2012 10:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Speaking of trolling, did anyone see this? http://www.parade.com/health/stay-healthy/2011/06/12-whats-healthier-breakfast.html (SFW)

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Posted: 01 February 2012 06:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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CleanCarter - 01 February 2012 08:50 AM

Being a vegan will not affect strength positively or negatively.  Most strenght gains are made via neuromuscular improvements rather than hyperplasia.  However, eating a vegan diet will greatly decrease your risks for disease and cancer.  Don’t listen to cavemen, they lived when food was tough to get.  If you live according to evolutionary standards then give up your car, your home, your t.v, and the computer you are typing on.  We have some new stuff since 5,000 yaers ago called science and technology.  So don’t listen to paleo diet info unless they are not living in modern society and in fact living in a cave.

Show up at the our gym.  I have yet to see a committed vegan who isn’t weak and/or fat.

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Posted: 03 April 2012 01:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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finally I found something about CF and Vegan. But why are you guys are so negative about beeing Vegan? there are so many vegan Athlets, and they are succesfull! but maybe you didnt know that the Gladitors were Vegan.

@sasquatch thx for the Links.

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