Migraine & Overtraining
Posted: 09 April 2013 09:53 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I am in great health and have been doing the WODs with this forum since 07/2012, always puppies, currently in the dojo twice a week for an hour or so training for black belt test on May 6 and getting in 2 WODs per week as well (occasionally 3) but trying not to overdo it because I have knee problems for the past year.  Last week I did two puppy WODs that made me feel as if I had pushed my limit a wee bit, enough that I felt like I was making GREAT progress and was a freaking titan in my little body!  The last WOD was on Friday.  On Saturday I had an optical migraine (have had 2 of those since October and occasional regular puking migraines over many years but next to none for the past 2 years).  During this particular migraine, I developed aphasia - could not say the words I was thinking.  They came out as other words.  Scared the crap outta me.  Two days in the hospital later, all tests okay (CT, echocardiogram, EEG, blood, urine, carotid Doppler, hourly blood pressure monitoring/sugars/oxygen sats, etc) all fine.  They still want me to have an MRI but I cannot afford it. 

My question to all of you is - can intense exercise bring on a migraine?  And are there any supplements I could take and/or dietary adjustments I could make that would help strengthen the neurological system? 

The hospital basically did a bunch of tests and threw me out the door with no answers in terms of treatment. 

Anyone have any experience with migraines from exercise? 

Many thanks -

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Posted: 09 April 2013 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Hi!

I searched the forums for “exercise headaches” and found the following threads. I hope something here helps!

http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/14375/P15/#263529
http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/12684/P45/#238343
http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/10574/
http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/9156/#163803
http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/8140/P105/#140989
http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/7648/
http://www.crossfitbrandx.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/5417/

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Posted: 09 April 2013 10:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Ooh thank you!  Good information.  I searched as well but didn’t find this much.  Would still like to hear from anyone inclined to comment.

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Posted: 10 April 2013 12:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I’ve had migraine with headache and optical phenomena for about fifteen years. It shows up once or twice a year. Sometimes just months between and I think I’ve had a couple of years without them. Was terrified just like you the first time.

From my experience they are very closely linked to stress and breathing patterns (heavy breathing but not really taking deep breaths - you are to stressed to “remember” to breathe). More than once I have got an attack hours after an intensive swim. Since starting crossfit I’ve had it twice, but those times were right after stressful periods of work. The training during that period was quite normal though and I can’t link the attacks to crossfit.

As of yet no cures have evidence other than some migraine-specific pain-killers. The best prevention is probably to reduce stress as that is the most common factor to set it off. You could also try breathing techniques like box-breathing and see if it helps.

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Posted: 10 April 2013 06:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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swedfalcon - 10 April 2013 12:26 AM

I’ve had migraine with headache and optical phenomena for about fifteen years. It shows up once or twice a year. Sometimes just months between and I think I’ve had a couple of years without them. Was terrified just like you the first time.

From my experience they are very closely linked to stress and breathing patterns (heavy breathing but not really taking deep breaths - you are to stressed to “remember” to breathe). More than once I have got an attack hours after an intensive swim. Since starting crossfit I’ve had it twice, but those times were right after stressful periods of work. The training during that period was quite normal though and I can’t link the attacks to crossfit.

As of yet no cures have evidence other than some migraine-specific pain-killers. The best prevention is probably to reduce stress as that is the most common factor to set it off. You could also try breathing techniques like box-breathing and see if it helps.

Thank you, I’ll look into it - I can handle the optical phenom but the expressive aphasia is too much to bear.  Or who knows, maybe I’ll get used to it.

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Posted: 10 April 2013 06:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Hope you won’t get it back. It sounds awful.

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Posted: 11 April 2013 07:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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swedfalcon - 10 April 2013 06:54 AM

Hope you won’t get it back. It sounds awful.

It was pretty crappy.  Especially considering how running my mouth is integral to my very BEING…

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Posted: 12 April 2013 07:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I used to suffer from daily tension/stress headaches and occasional migraines before I went gluten free. That may be something to think about if you do eat grains and are out of ideas on what else to do.

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Posted: 12 April 2013 06:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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karenchase - 12 April 2013 07:37 AM

I used to suffer from daily tension/stress headaches and occasional migraines before I went gluten free. That may be something to think about if you do eat grains and are out of ideas on what else to do.

Appreciate the suggestion - thank you!

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Posted: 14 April 2013 09:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Sorry to hear this,
I speak from personal experience and my time in the medical field.  TO clarify I was in Medical Imaging, and a biomed, I fixed and installed and repaired MRi, ultrasounds, mammo, CTs all that jazz.
NEways, I got a headache during working one day, after picking up a 100lbs plus of magnets and equipment, and BOOM, a super intense and sudden headache, felt like my freaking head was going to explode.  I didn’t go to the ER, I should of, my speech got a little stupid and I got dizzy all of that stuff.  MRI and all that was clear a few days later, with and without contrast.  What I got, and what I think you might of gotten is called a “thunder clap” headache.  Brought on by exertion, and more that often benign.  But the good common practice is that if you have a headache that causes speach issues, or vision problems, get it checked out, and a MRi is needed for this.  Next time go to the ER, if you can. 
Exercise can cause headaches, usually from dehydration, or a effect that is from lack of sugar for energy.  Meaning your body can and will start eating your muscle for dinner if you dont have enough in you to keep it up.  And yes you can be fat and this still happen.  Muscle for ATP and energy usage is a longer burning and better fuel for you body.
I know this cause during my time in the Army, basic training classes would have this happen over and over again.  Usually during a long road march or super hard workouts.  You can tell it in really bad forms cause you will start to smell like ammonia. 
So why did I type all that poo, cause for corssfit member who are trying to cut, or are strict Paleo people, this could lead you to headaches and all types of issues, from your lack of stored glucose, or sucrose (sorry cant remember off hand the standby form of energy in our body). 
Meaning if you have been doing WODs after sometime off, and your headaches come after a few workouts, look at your nutrition, and carb intake.  I know Carb is a bad word here, but your headaches could be from lack of fuel needed to get you through the workout.
IF that is not the issue, save some loot and get a MRi.  Exertion headaches can be bad, but you seem like your OK.

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Posted: 26 April 2013 07:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Thanks Matt!

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Posted: 23 May 2013 01:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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not sure if this is relevant but my mom always gets migraines…I never did till recently or what I think of as migraines..th headaches last for days… I can also feel soreness(a knot) in the back of the head/neck…tender to touch…if I can get to chiro TPT releases it and relieves it quicker. sometimes I can ease it with tennis ball myifascial. For me it’s a pinching of the nerve kinda thing. I asked my mom about going to a chiro and she said she would never let someone message the area around her neck/shoulders because it hurt so much during a migraine. She suffers terribly..anyway maybe working tennis ball myofascial after workouts will help keep the knots from pinching nerves and causing headaches…might be worth a try

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Posted: 23 June 2013 10:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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It’s all worth a try!  Thanks so much for the suggestion!

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